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SCOTT BRICK PRESENTS: Finally, Stephen R. Donaldson’s THE POWER THAT PRESERVES Is Here, The Final Volume Of THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT, THE UNBELIEVER – Complete And Unabridged – On Audio For The First Time Ever!Or, An Audiobook Narrator Offers His Advice On How Narrators New To The Field Should Tackle The Mountain Of Made-Up Words They’ll Face In Epic Fantasy Series

Scott — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:31:29 +0000

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If you’re a regular reader (or listener) to this column, then you’ve already experienced me waxing poetic about THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT, THE UNBELIEVER numerous times before here and here), so this time I thought I’d branch out slightly, be a bit more all-inclusive with both my subject and my audience. Given that the Covenant saga is so replete with exotic words, made up completely by the mind of Stephen R. Donaldson, I thought I would perhaps give some advice on how to approach a problem that aspiring narrators face when doing a new fantasy series: how to tackle the difficult job of making an audiobook as similar as possible to the author’s intent by using their pronunciations instead of your own. I figured this would also be a cool bit of background, some making-of tidbits for the Covenant fans out there, to see just how all these particular wacky pronunciations were arrived at. (See? Two birds with one stone! Multi-tasking, baby, multi-tasking.)

A peek at the back of the latest Thomas Covenant novel shows that the series’ glossary has grown to 593 words. That’s 593 words that won’t be found in any language on Earth. If it were a standard fiction series, most of those words could be looked up someplace online. Alas, in fantasy novels that’s rarely the case. In such series, the language is usually what the author wants it to be, meaning there’s only one person who speaks it: the author him/herself. This means that you, as the narrator, are faced with only two options: guess how they’re pronounced, or go to the source.

In my case, I’d rather go to the source. Every time.

There was a recording done of DUNE, years ago, by an amazing narrator whose work I love, but unfortunately he didn’t have access to the author or his notes, and as a result, all the words were guessed at, and for me, I found it impossible to listen to. Part of that is my own particular preference as a science fiction/fantasy fan: I’m not interested in how I pronounce these words, or another narrator may pronounce these words, or even how a legion of fans may pronounce them; I only want to know the author’s take on things, that’s all, that’s it. Nothing else will suffice.

If you’re tempted to take your best guess and figure that’ll be good enough, my advice to you is, good enough usually isn’t. You may be a lifelong fan of the project, but that doesn’t mean your ability to guess is better than anyone else’s. If it had been up to me, I would probably have gone with the pronunciations from the David Lynch version of DUNE, but in almost every case those would’ve been wrong. (Crazy when you realize David Lynch hired DUNE author Frank Herbert as a technical adviser on the film and he STILL got them all wrong.) I also would have pronounced Terry Brooks’ mythical realm the wrong way: most people pronounce his seminal title as the Sword of Shuh-NAH-ruh, whereas he’s adamant that it’s SHAN-uh-ruh. And yes, I stumbled almost every time I said it Brooks’ way, but that’s because I’d listened to too many of the fans over the years pronouncing it THEIR way. And unfortunately, that way is just plain wrong. So SHAN-uh-ruh it is. Or, was.

All that said, I knew I had to speak to Stephen R. Donaldson for these Covenant words, and thankfully the publisher put me in touch with him. He was incredibly giving of his time, and we worked our way through each and every word in the glossary, which took over an hour to do. I recorded the conversation as we did so, then took the tape and transcribed it painstakingly into a Word document. (Narrator hint: recording phone conversations is alarmingly easy, and my advice would be to consult your local Radio Shack for the easiest method. Whichever you choose, however, experiment with it first. You don’t want to find out that the little suction cup attachment that’s supposed to work just fine didn’t capture any sound at all, especially if you’ve already had the author phone call and you now have nothing to transcribe, no way to recapture the sound you’ve lost. Trust me, I’ve done this, and you want to avoid it.)

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Be easy on yourself and arrange your unfolding audio glossary alphabetically. If characters have last names, list them under that, though you might also want to have duplicate entries for their first names if last names aren’t used that often. Cross-referencing things is a huge help. And if it’s a case like the Covenant books, where character names are often linked together with family member’s names, such as Mhoram son of Variol, or Hyrim son of Hoole, you’ll want to make sure and have separate entries for each of those names, parent and child. Sometimes you’ll be talking about Hoole without mentioning Hyrim, but if you don’t remember that he’s Hyrim’s father you won’t know where to find him in the glossary.

Sound confusing? Well, it is, but once you immerse yourself in a series, it gets easier.

My audio glossaries typically have two primary entries, one for the way the word is spelled in the book, and another for phonetic spellings.

lillianrill:   lih-lee-AHN-ril

But sometimes these crazy, made-up words defy translation to the page. Sometimes the individual syllables are so soft or subtle that it’s difficult to tell what’s correct. If the author gives any additional instructions, I always note it on the side.

Bannor:   BAAN-r is preferred, though
          BAAN-oer is fine

Sometimes the details are even more subtle, and require longer explanations:

dharmakshetra:   DAHR-mahk-SHET-ruh; slightly
                 aspirated H after the D,
                 slightly rolled R at the end,
                 consistent with all Waynhim names

And if you really want to be an overachieving nut like I am, you may also create individual sound files for each of these entries. I don’t recommend doing this every time, it requires a ton of work, but when you’re dealing with sequels (and name me a great fantasy novel that HASN’T had a sequel), having an additional first-generation source can be crucial. And this comes in especially handy when you’re dealing with phrases rather than individual words. It’s always handy to be able to hear something rather than reading it.

Kelenbhrabanal marushyn!
Rushyn hynyn kelenkoor rillynarunal!
Ranyhyn Kelenbhrabanal!
(Lithe calling Ranyhyn, THE ILLEARTH WAR, pgs. 371-2)

KEHL-n-BRAH-ben-ahl MAH-roo-shin!
ROO-shin HIN-in KEL-en-koor ri-lee-NAH-roo-nahl!
RAH-nuh-hin KEHL-n-BRAH-ben-ahl!

Once you’ve created your audio glossary, the hard part’s done, and now the fun can begin: you get to actually record the novel! Keep a copy of the glossary on hand, either a hardcopy if you’re working in someone else’s studio, or a digital copy if you’re working in your own. Keep it open and in the background, because you’ll reference it often, and if you’re working with a producer, make sure they have a copy of it, and provide a copy to whomever’s going to be proofing the recording once you’re done, as well. The more eyes you have double-checking that your pronunciations are correct and consistent, the better.

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Once the title is finished, and the proofing and editing are complete, it might seem that you’re done with your glossary, but trust me, you’re not. Keep a hardcopy in your files, and a digital copy on your hard drive, and make sure they’re in a logical, easy-to-remember location. The last thing you want is for three years to go by and find yourself the night before you’re set to record the sequel, looking frantically for the damn file. Trust me, I’ve been there too, and it’s a lonely place. If you’ve got a lot of these glossaries piling up, come up with a consistent labeling system so you can find the appropriate one swiftly.

For myself, getting to hear these words from Donaldson’s own mouth was an amazing experience, as I’d literally been wondering for 25 years how some of these things sounded. I also got to hear him clown around a bit, which was really cool, poking fun at his own words and their odd pronunciations. For instance, there’s a group of words mentioned in the series all the time, they’re essentially words of power:

     Melenkurion abatha!  Duroc minas mill khabaal!

In the story, by invoking them, powerful magics are often manifested. Powerful, POWERFUL magics. Well, when I asked him how they’re pronounced, he laughed softly and prefaced their pronunciation by joking, “Watching out for sudden thunder and appearances of mystical events…” It was a subtle thing, but it cracked me up.

He also told me that of all the words he’s ever invented, the one that generates the most debate among his fans is:

Elemesnedene:   EH-leh-MAYN-deen

Huh. Never would’ve gotten that one right. Thank God I called first.

Well, I hope you enjoy THE POWER THAT PRESERVES. It’s been an amazing experience, and I truly appreciate all the support you’ve shown by purchasing each volume of this trilogy. Thanks for coming along for the ride.

And, as always, thanks for listening,

Scott Brick

BRICK BY BRICK AUDIOBOOKS IS PROUD TO BRING YOU CHARLES DICKENS’ A CHRISTMAS CAROL, TWO THOMAS COVENANT NOVELS, A UNIQUE ADDITION TO THE DUNE UNIVERSE, AND THE PHOENIX LEGACY TRILOGY BY M.K. WREN Or, Our 2008-2009 release slate is here! Seven books in the next six months! And that’s only the beginning!

Scott — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:10:26 +0000

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is with not a little pride and joy that I bring you news about the next seven titles from my little company, Brick By Brick Audiobooks. We’ll be bringing you seven – count them, seven! – books, one title a month for the next six months, PLUS Charles Dickens’ A CHRISTMAS CAROL this holiday season.

I appreciate everyone who helped make our first two titles, LORD FOUL’S BANE and FATAL REVENANT – both from Stephen R. Donaldson’s Chronicles of Thomas Covenant – such a success, and I’m pleased to let you know that in the next six months we will be bringing you Books Two and Three, completing the First Chronicles, an accomplishment I’ve dreamed about for years. In LORD FOUL’S BANE, you saw how Thomas Covenant found himself in The Land, a leper from our world mistaken for the reincarnation of their world’s greatest hero. Now follow him as Lord Foul wages war against the Lords of Revelstone in THE ILLEARTH WAR, then positions all the players for the inevitable cataclysm in THE POWER THAT PRESERVES. If that sounds like a lot of action, it is; these two books will total more than 40 hours of listening.

And right before Thanksgiving, we’ll deliver unto you a little stocking stuffer: the perennial holiday classic A CHRISTMAS CAROL. We’ll even be offering this particular title in hard copies (on CDs, in nifty packaging and everything), since it’s hard to put a bow around an MP3 and slide it under the tree, menorah, or Festivus pole. This will be a return for me to my theater roots: more than a decade ago, I adapted Dickens’ story for the stage and played Scrooge for two seasons; it’s been touring every December since.

If you’ve never read how Jacob Marley and the Ghosts of Christmas Past, Present, and Future attempt to redeem the miserly Ebenezer Scrooge, you’re in for a treat – it’s one of the greatest, most recognizable stories of all time. This presentation will also feature an amazing musical score, crafted by my great friend and enormously talented musician/composer John Massey (currently touring as Mr. C. in “Happy Days: The Musical”). This score, filled with historically accurate carols, will be a departure for me, as most of the books I narrate are straight reads, without music or sound effects, but this story is so special and dear to my heart that I figured, why not? Consider the musical flourishes a present from me to you.

Next, I’m puffed with pride to announce that Brick By Brick Audiobooks will be bringing you my favorite science fiction series, THE PHOENIX LEGACY by M.K. Wren. This trilogy is set in the 33rd century, where a dazzling empire is poised on the brink of annihilation…

The Lord Alexand DeKoven Woolf is destined by birth to occupy a unique position of power in the Concord of the Loyal Houses, the monolithic (and essentially feudalistic) government that is the matrix for all human civilization. The Concord, despite its outward appearances of stability and prosperity, is suffering severe internal stresses, primarily manifested by chronic uprisings among the Bonds, its serf/slave class. The Concord is, in fact, threatened with the specter of a third dark age. As Firstborn to the House of DeKoven Woolf, Alexand is the indirect heir to the Chairmanship, the grandson of the current monarch. Born to rule, he nonetheless swears to destroy the greatest empire mankind has ever known, all for the greater good of humanity.

And last but by no means least, there is DREAMER OF DUNE: THE BIOGRAPHY OF FRANK HERBERT, written by his son, Brian Herbert. I first encountered Brian about eight years ago when I was preparing to narrate Dune: The Butlerian Jihad, and Brian cracked open his father’s notes to help me with all those crazy pronunciations. Over the years, I’m proud to say we’ve became friends.

I was shocked to discover that this magnificent biography of his father was not yet on audiobook – shocked, and, I have to admit, pleased, because it meant that I would have the opportunity to narrate it myself. Whether you’re a massive Dune-head or only occasionally sip some spiced tea (See what I did with that? Huh, huh? Dune… Spice?), I think you’ll really enjoy this book. It’s a unique insight into the man who created the greatest, most richly-detailed science fiction saga of all time, a wonderful portrait, lovingly rendered. A must for all science fiction fans.

So when is all this happening?

Glad you asked. Here’s the schedule as it stands now:

11/05/08

THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT THE UNBELIEVER

BOOK TWO: THE ILLEARTH WAR

By Stephen R. Donaldson

11/27/08 – Happy Thanksgiving!

A CHRISTMAS CAROL

By Charles Dickens

12/1/08

SWORD OF THE LAMB

BOOK ONE OF THE PHOENIX LEGACY

By M.K. Wren

1/1/09

SHADOW OF THE SWAN

BOOK TWO OF THE PHOENIX LEGACY

By M.K. Wren

2/1/09

HOUSE OF THE WOLF

BOOK THREE OF THE PHOENIX LEGACY

By M.K. Wren

3/1/09

DREAMER OF DUNE: THE BIOGRAPHY OF FRANK HERBERT

By Brian Herbert

4/1/09

THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT THE UNBELIEVER

BOOK THREE: THE POWER THAT PRESERVES

By Stephen R. Donaldson.

It’s humbling to realize by the time the first anniversary of Brick By Brick Audiobooks’ first release rolls around, we will have released nine books in these twelve months. And it’s staggering in terms of sleep deprivation, but 2009 will be the beginning of our book-a-month schedule. That’s right: we’re going monthly, baby! Twelve books in twelve months. And wait ‘til you hear what surprises we have in store for the second half of 2009.

As always, these books will be recorded in glorious 128 kbps sound. And remember, Brick By Brick Audiobook titles are never abridged!

We’ll be talking to you again in a week or so with more information about these titles: pricing, discounts, that kind of thing. ’Til then, take care and don’t eat all the leftover Halloween candy in one sitting, okay?

Oh, sorry, one last nugget of knowledge: at the risk of making this post as long as the manuscript of my first novel, I thought some of you might be interested to know that we’ve been granted permission to release the Covenant novels throughout the world. So for all you folks in the UK who’ve been frustrated by our contractual limitations, those will be a thing of the past in the very near future!

Thanks for listening,

Scott

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Stephen R. Donaldson’s FATAL REVENANT Audiobook Is Now On Sale!

Scott — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:02:55 +0000

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No big post today, ladies and gentlemen, just a quick note to announce that the new audiobook for Stephen R. Donaldson’s FATAL REVENANT is now on sale!

Yes, the latest novel in Stephen’s THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT THE UNBELIEVER – as well as the second audiobook from Brick by Brick Audio – is now ready for your listening pleasure. I hope you like it as much as I do. You can click here to go to my store and listen to a clip from the book, then buy the download.

And, while I’m very happy to have both FATAL REVENANT and LORD FOUL’S BANE for you in one week, I hope you’ll understand if I don’t make it a habit. Someone told me that sleep is actually a good thing…

If you haven’t had a chance yet, let me direct you to my previous post where I talk about what Stephen’s Thomas Covenant series has meant to me. Click here to go to that blog entry.

I’m going to post a couple quick blogs — one about a quirk when importing the files into iTunes, the other on a survey on the MP3 file sizes I’ve been using — and then take a long winter’s (spring’s) nap.

While I’m resting, why don’t you drop me an e-mail at scott@scottbrickpresents.com or a comment on the website to let me know what you think of these two books?

Thanks for listening,

Scott

Survey: Do You Burn Audiobook MP3 Files to CD?

Scott — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:01:27 +0000

Hope you don’t mind me picking your brain for a minute, but wanted to get your thoughts on something.

The MP3 files for FATAL REVENANT and LORD FOUL’S BANE are about 75 minutes long each. That was intentional – each part fits on one CD.

The question is, do any of you burn these MP3 files onto CD, or do you just keep them digital?

Let me know by leaving a comment on this post. This will help me tailor the files and downloads for how people use them.

Thanks!

Scott

iTunes Audiobook Glitch Means You Have to Import Files, not Drag Them

Scott — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:57:29 +0000

Hey, everyone, I wanted to let you know about the workaround to a small but annoying situation we’ve discovered, and to ask your advice if you have any wisdom on this issue.

It seems that when you drag the MP3 files for FATAL REVENANT or LORD FOUL’S BANE into iTunes, the Apple software chops off the file names and leaves you with a bunch of files named “Chronicle” instead of the full title and part numbers.

The solution for now? In iTunes, on the File menu, use the Import function to select all the files from your desktop and bring them into iTunes.

We have several different groups of people investigating what’s causing the situation, and hope to have it fixed shortly. But for now, Import yes, drag no.

And if any tech types are out there, feel free to shoot me an e-mail (scott@scottbrickpresents.com) or post a comment below to point us in the right direction. I know in the big scheme of things this is a dust mote, but we want to give you the best, easiest, most enjoyable experience possible.

Sorry for the inconvenience,

Scott

FINALLY, Stephen R. Donaldson’s LORD FOUL’S BANE Hits Audio!Or, An audiobook narrator flagellates himself for taking so damn long getting THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT THE UNBELIEVER on audio

Scott — Fri, 02 May 2008 04:54:15 +0000

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May 1^st, 2008. Mean anything to you? Maybe not, maybe it’s nothing more than any other Thursday, maybe you can’t think of a single reason to put a red X on that date in your calendar. But believe me, I can. It’s a huge day in the Brick household, my friends, a day I’ve hoped for lo these last 25 years, a day I’ve worked toward daily for almost a year now.

It’s the day THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT become available on audio. That’s right: both Part One, LORD FOUL’S BANE and the latest installment, Part Eight, FATAL REVENANT, are now audiobooks from Brick by Brick audio. (There will be a slight pause while Stephen R. Donaldson fans rejoice, and while I catch my breath. It’s been a lot of work.)

Click here to go to the Store to purchase and download LORD FOUL’S BANE right now. LORD FOUL’S BANE is EXCLUSIVE to ScottBrickPresents right now, you can’t get it anywhere else!

I first read this series back in college. I’ll never forget the day I spent studying for finals my freshman year in UCLA’s University Research Library. I had a huge dilemma on my hands: study for the Theater History class I was so woefully unprepared for, or learn Covenant’s fate at the end of LORD FOUL’S BANE.

Wasn’t much of a choice. I sacrificed my grades that quarter, because the idea of living with the anxiety of not knowing what happened to the Quest for the Staff of Law just didn’t seem plausible

I’ve never regretted my decision.

I learned a funny thing about those books: they sit with you long after the plots of most novels fade. A literature professor of mine once said the mark of a good fictional character is whether or not the readers spend time asking themselves, “I wonder what this character is doing now?” after they turn the final page. If that’s indeed the benchmark of literary success, then Donaldson succeeded wildly with Thomas Covenant. His dilemmas became my own, his ruminations on power and impotence resonated forcefully in my own relationships, unfortunately, and his bitter growl “Hellfire!” was never far from my mind when things went poorly in life.

I also learned I’m not alone in this. There are a TON of Covenant fans out there.

At first, I’d find them somewhat stealthily, unexpectedly. The first time was at a party when someone showed off a white gold ring (a major plot point in the Covenant saga). I mentioned the series to this person and was met with a questioning glance: have you read it, did you enjoy it, did the books resonate as much with you as they did with me, that look seemed to say. A nod, a narrowing of the eyes and a sly smile told me I’d just met a brother, a fellow member of an elite fraternity: someone who’d walked in Thomas Covenant’s shoes as I had.

Over the years, membership in that club expanded, and I found myself discussing its many virtues with acquaintances, girlfriends, even my mother got hooked on the series. There’s even a website devoted entirely to meeting other Covenant/Donaldson fanatics, Kevinswatch.com, a message board I recently (and proudly) joined. Yet with all the new members in the Covenant club I met, that sly feeling of exclusivity never faded; that feeling that you had participated in something huge, monumental; that you’d read something so painfully lovely that it felt wrong to refer to it as a mere BOOK. I feel it still, all these years later.

Of course now, the context has changed somewhat. Now, instead of being the casual reader, I’m what you’d call a PROFESSIONAL reader. I get to travel around the country and give talks, lectures, seminars and the like, sharing with people just what a cool job I have narrating audiobooks, and at these appearances I’m often asked to read a few pages of something, anything, to show the good folks what I do. And for years now, I almost always read a page from LORD FOUL’S BANE, my favorite selection from the entire series, in fact: page 182, where Covenant and the giant Saltheart Foamfollower sail upriver to Revelstone. Foamfollower asks a simple question about storytelling, which inspires an exchange that’s both heart wrenching and lyrical. (Right-click here to download an MP3 where Scott reads his favorite page). Whenever I read this, people always ask me, “Where can I get that, it’s so beautiful, where can I read the whole book?”

The first time this happened was a few years back at a lobster bake in Maine put on by the publisher of AudioFile Magazine. I was asked to read a few pages, so, since I was narrating RUNES OF THE EARTH for Penguin at the time, that being the seventh Covenant book and the first one I’d ever done professionally, I thought for nostalgia’s sake I’d trot out something from the first volume. Well, author Ben Cheever was there that day – Ben is the son of John Cheever, and author of THE PLAGARIST, as well as the editor of the recent LETTERS OF JOHN CHEEVER – and he came up to me afterward and said, “You’re recording that right now?” No, I told him, I’m doing part seven in the series at the moment; this is from part one. “Well, where can I get parts one through six?” Cheever asked. “I’ll buy them right now.”

That was the first time I ever considered doing what I did: optioning the entire series, and filling in all the volumes. Next time I see Cheever, I’m buying him a beer. And giving him complimentary copies.

Because you see, this is the definition of a labor of love. Recording these books doesn’t even seem like work to me. All I can think about is someone experiencing this story for the first time and being blessed by it as I was. That’s enough to make me forget about the long hours and the stifling heat of my non-air-conditioned studio. And getting to work with an author as generous as Stephen R. Donaldson, all to make sure that the pronunciations of this complex language and culture are accurate, is a fan’s dream come true. Stephen has spent hours on the phone, going through an ever-expanding glossary of terms that, by the end of the latest volume, ran to 593 entries. That’s nearly a hundred more than DUNE, folks.

Well, as SPINAL TAP’s good friend Marty DiBergi once said, “Hey, enough of my yakkin’!” It’s been a great deal of fun planning and presenting this gift, and now it’s ready. Off come the wrappings, off comes the tag that says “Do not open ‘til May 1^st”, out comes the card. To you, from me. Here is the first installment in the Thomas Covenant saga, LORD FOUL’S BANE, followed very shortly by the eighth and latest novel in the series, FATAL REVENANT, by Stephen R. Donaldson. Plans are to record the intervening titles at six month intervals, all of them ultimately becoming available by the time Donaldson finishes the series with Part Ten.

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I hope you enjoy listening to LORD FOUL’S BANE and FATAL REVENANT as much as I did reading them, the first time for myself and now for you. Leave a comment below or drop me an e-mail to scott@scottbrickpresents.com and let me know what you think.

Now if you’ll excuse me, it’s been a bit hectic getting all the last-minute details ironed out, so I’m going to go be unconscious for a while.

Thanks for listening,

Scott